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jag-1978
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New Car and Transfer of System

Post by jag-1978 » Tue Feb 15, 2011 10:08 am

After the recent issues I’ve had with the head gasket and various other bits. I’m considering getting rid or p/x my 1997 523i SE Auto with about 140k miles – BRC Sequent 56. I know I wont get a good price on a private sale so p/x is the best option plus it mean I don’t have to go through the hassle of selling it separately.

I’m thinking of moving up to a 7 series something that is year 2000/2001 with between 60 – 100k on the clock - so not so new. I’m thinking 728 model. So my question is do you think it’s a worthwhile spend to have the BRC removed from my 5er and have it installed in the 728! They are virtually the same engine, both being 6 pot. The only thing I would consider would be a tank upgrade to maybe a higher capacity cylinder rather than keeping the 77ltr toridal one. When I initially had the system fitted about 4-5 years ago the engineer said it would probably cost about half the cost of a complete installation to transfer from one car to another! So I’m assuming £700ish + cost of new tank.

I know that it’s probably not a worthwhile spend going for a completely new system but is the outlay for a transfer of systems worth it… I know I will definitely notice that difference as I’m currently an LPG user moving back to petrol sounds scary… My driving these days is mostly B’ham city driving with the occasional motorway thrown in for good measure! What do you guys reckon… I did consider a 740 then convert it but that’s another £1.8k on top for a new system being a V8, plus even after the conversion the cost in LPG would still be much higher so disregarded. Sorry I can’t do short and simple messages!! Story of my life!

Jag

mak-uk
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Re: New Car and Transfer of System

Post by mak-uk » Wed Feb 16, 2011 12:21 pm

Hi Jag,

What issues have you had with your car? Even if it is a head gasket, it can usually be sorted and if you're happy with the car otherwise, why not just sort it with the LPG conversion in-situ?

As the car is, obviously, you won't get much for it.. then you will have to pay to buy a new car and THEN, you have to find an installer who is willing to remove and re-fit your old kit to your new car - and not all installers are willing to do that. Therefore, it's best to investigate this first. Secondly, this will involve some labour cost too (several hundred) and then some cost on new bits like clips and piping etc.

Whatever you decide, carefully plan and budget it out.
Mak
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jag-1978
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Re: New Car and Transfer of System

Post by jag-1978 » Wed Feb 16, 2011 1:04 pm

Hay Mak – Well I have no doubt that the car can be fixed. It’s still at the garage being checked out, current issues with the car was the head was warped and had to be skimmed, currently it’s smoking on start up and losing a lot of oil, and finally it’s idling really badly both on petrol and gas!… truth is I’ve been thinking about moving to a 7 for a while now ever before the issues. Just thought this was the perfect opportunity. Still need to speak to the installer, but he will definitely be prepared to remove and refit as the initial install was carried out by him! Just need to work out the cost.

The kind of budget I’m looking for is about £5-5.5k for a new car… For part ex I’ve got my own car and also my wifes old car (1999 VW Polo) as she recently replaced hers. God knows what they will be worth but I have to do some serious sums before taking the plunge!
Jag

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Re: New Car and Transfer of System

Post by mak-uk » Thu Feb 17, 2011 12:44 am

Could be that you have cooked the block but make sure you take it to someone reliable/a good specialist. Let me know if you need someone locally.
Mak
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tubbs
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Re: New Car and Transfer of System

Post by tubbs » Tue May 17, 2011 11:29 am

Ok people really struggle with this concept but let me tell you when it comes to changing over from one car to another its actually double the work to fitting a new kit. Now i have removed many a kit in my time generally to swap from taxi to taxi before they go into auction or whatever. The old adage of ' its not the parts, its the labour ' is never a truer comment in this case. So let me break it down out of say a £1000.00 conversion at least £600.00 of that is labour. No gas converter can do a decent job in under 14 hrs labour. And thats if they have seen the car before and know where everything is. i can do an old range rover in just under 8 with sill tanks but i can probably do them whilst actually asleep. I did manage to get new beetles down to 6 hrs per car with 2 lads and a fleet of 8 one after the other. But that was using proper production line methodology and my time working for oem's.
Just bear that in mind. This is why most lpg fitters will not even entertain it. Also the lpg tanks are date stamped and have an expiry for certification.

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